Wednesday, June 14, 2017

Deworming Humans

Here's the deal . . . by the time an "infection" becomes "disease," your immune system is so worn out that it can no longer fight off anything. Which means that latent viruses (that everyone has) become re-activated. And the e-coli in that under-cooked burger, the bacteria on that improperly-washed salad, the tapeworm eggs in that sushi roll -- all of them are able to set up housekeeping inside your body. That's why the symptom list is so long: parasites invade every joint, every organ, every tissue. Once the parasites wear down your immune system, you won't have one parasite, you'll have half a dozen. You won't have one symptom off this list, you'll have a dozen of them. And as your immune system struggles to keep doing its job, you will have constant, low-grade inflammation throughout your body. Which further wears down your immune system. And which is why so many people with parasites think they have (or get diagnosed with) an auto-immune disorder.

Many parasites have "signature" symptoms that are important to know about when deciding what treatment might work for you. Here are the ones I know of at this time. If you know of others that should be added to this list, please let me know so we can make this list as complete as possible.

Lyme disease - sometimes has a signature bulls-eye rash. Before Lyme disease was called Lyme disease, it was called Montauk Knee because of all the people around Montauk, NY, who presented with swollen, painful knees. Many were diagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis or juvenile rheumatoid arthritis. But knees are not the only joint favored by Borrelia (the bacteria that causes Lyme disease). Another signature of this parasite is that they invade the soft tissue of all the joints so the pain moves from joint to joint almost daily with no rhyme or reason. The grimace of Bells-Palsy is also associated with Borrelia (although, in my opinion, the other brain parasites should not be overlooked as possible culprits; Dr. McDonald's research about nematodes in the brain is so recent that their possible role in Bells-Palsy would not be known. Also, nematodes and Borrelia are tag-team parasites, both of which cause destruction in the brain). One other signature of Borrelia is a very stiff and sometimes crunchy neck. If backing your car and/or singing has become very difficult for you, suspect Lyme disease.

Bartonella (also known as Cat Scratch Fever) - sometimes has a signature stretch-mark rash. The signature symptom is foot pain. Anyone diagnosed with plantar fasciitis who also has chronic-fatigue-like symptoms should suspect a Bartonella infection.

H. pylori (Helicobactor pylori) - Signature symptom is sternum pain that can be so severe that if touched in the sternum area it feels as if you have been punched in the chest. Also ulcers and digestive issues. Over 50% of gastric cancer patients are infected with h. pylori.

Babesia - this one is a cousin to malaria and for me has proven to be the hardest to eradicate. I'll beat it back and then a couple of months later will feel the creeping back in of these signature symptoms: air hunger (easily out of breath, inability to draw a deep breath, panting walking upstairs), temperature disregulation (constantly alternating between too hot - to the point of sweating and dizziness - and too cold), along with general malaise and exhaustion.

Fungus/Yeast/Candida overgrowth - Candida is a useful fungus in the body as long as it is in balance; unfortunately, Candida is easily unbalanced by the use of antibiotics. The antibiotic-induced overgrowth of Candida may well be the great over-looked medical problem of our time and (I think) it may be the root cause of many, if not most, of our "mystery" illnesses including Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Auto-immune diseases (what if the immune system is fighting Candida rather than "itself," as we are often led to believe?), and too many others to list. Imagine this scenario: The use of antibiotics causes Candida overgrowth causes constant low-grade inflammation causes the degradation of the immune system creates an internal environment where parasites are no longer sought-and-destroyed by the immune system, causing chronic illness that is so multi-pronged that it is very hard to diagnose, treat, and eradicate. (It makes too much sense.)

My son Logan is the example I know of first-hand. He suffered ear-infections as a baby and was often given antibiotics. Throughout childhood he suffered digestive problems such as gas, bloating, diarrhea, and pooping so often that "Logan in the bathroom" was kind of a family joke. He craved sugar and carbohydrates; he suffered many allergies. He played a lot of sports but was often sick; in high school he had mono and MERSA several times. (And more antibiotics.) Just out of high school he became so sick that daily functioning was difficult for him. As we peeled away the layers of his illness, down at the very bottom of everything, we found Candida. (I need to mention here that Logan's illness was many years in the making and one reason diagnosis is so difficult is that so much time can pass between the use of antibiotics and the onset of serious illness that it is nearly impossible to connect the dots between the two.)

(For example, this very same scenario happened in one of my fillies who, as a yearling, had an eyeball scratched by a tree branch. The ensuing infection became a melting ulcer that literally looked as if her eyeball was melting down her face. The eye was saved through several weeks of around-the-clock IV antibiotics. However, after the eye healed I noticed that the filly's personality had changed; she became grumpy and lethargic. I remember looking at her and wondering if the scar on her eye gave her headaches. For two years there were scant clues and I just couldn't figure out what was going on. Then, when she was three, I noticed her swinging her head around and scratching at her belly. Upon investigation, I realized that she had an itchy, gooey, scabby rash that ran along her belly from her girth area to her udders. Luckily, by this time I had had my own sad education and I was able to put the puzzle pieces together. I started her on probiotics, feed with no sugar, twice-daily applications of my homemade anti-fungal lotion, (and wormer). It took about six months, but her belly healed completely. Her personality is more like her old self. She remains on probiotics (Restore4Life is amazing) and a sugar-free diet. (It is worth mentioning that animals are good control subjects as there is no placebo effect with them.)

Nematodes - these bastards live in the spinal fluid and feed on our brains. These are the ones that cause unexplained (and often severe) back pain and the crazy neurological symptoms including changes to handwriting, walking impairment and general clumsiness, blurry and ever-changing vision (although this is not the only parasite that messes with the vision, but since they do so much damage in the brain, they should be considered a likely culprit). Also including the psycho symptoms of anxiety, depression, hallucinations, and all the other assorted things that make you wonder if you are losing your mind. Yes, you are, literally, physically, losing your mind if you have nematodes. If you have not yet watched this slide show from Dr. Alan McDonald about finding nematodes in every brain he tested from people who supposedly died of Alzheimer's, Parkinson's, and ALS, you need to do so now.

This is the most important new development in the understanding of Lyme and other parasites: the finding that Borrelia lives inside of nematodes and together they wreak havoc on humans (without ever having been bitten by a tick). Additionally, nematodes are the parasites we are constantly worming our pets for: roundworms, rope worms, ascarids, pinworms. strongyles, threadworms, stomach worms, etc. It is unbelievable (and negligent) that we know our pets have parasites and that veterinarians push us to regularly de-worm our animals, but it is not on the radar of any US doctor that we should also be regularly de-worming ourselves and our children. Especially if those children live (and OMG, sleep) with pets who are shedding parasites because they have been wormed.

(P.S. Dear Horse Friends, If you are actively worming your horses but not yourself, there is no doubt in my mind that you have parasites. Don't wait for "infection" to become "disease." By the time it does, you will have real and lasting damage to your brain and your joints.)

Having spent a life-time with animals (dogs, cats, horses) I was very familiar with the various de-wormers that veterinarians prescribe for our pets. Our old dog has eaten a Heartgard (ivermectin) treat every month for years. My horses had regular fecal counts for parasites and based on that, the vet recommended which wormer should be given. For decades, I had used many different wormers to de-worm many different horses. To say I was comfortable with wormer would be an understatement. So, when I first watched Dr. McDonald's lecture, I knew we were going to de-worm ourselves. I sent the lecture to our nurse practitioner and scheduled an appointment with her. I googled something like, "humans using wormer" and found many sites where humans were ingesting horse, goat, and fish wormer. I learned that the Jimmy Carter Foundation has shipped 240 million doses of ivermectin to countries in Africa and South America to combat the nematode that causes river blindness (which is transmitted to humans through the bites of black flies).


These are the wormers we’ve used:

Ivermectin: First of all a caveat: One of our great docs (who is a veterinarian and an MD and an acupuncturist and a healer) told us that ivermectin is "a machine-gun." It kills a lot of crap living inside us. By the time we took ivermectin we had been in intensive treatment for about seven months. Killing parasites at a slow pace makes us miserable enough; killing them fast and in great numbers can be dangerous (especially to the heart, brain, liver). IVERMECTIN IS NOT FOR BEGINNERS. Start with the mild wormers (listed below), kill things off slowly and do all the things you can think of to detox, which is a nice way of saying: pee and poop and sweat and expel mucus to get that crap out of your body so your liver doesn't wear itself out trying to deal with the dead parasites. Get that crap out of you! With any luck, you'll have so much success with the mild wormers you won't have to use the machine gun.

With that said, here is our story. I told our NP that we were going to use ivermectin and that she could write us a prescription or we would experiment with the horse paste. I had found groups on line where people were ingesting the horse paste, and while I was not (yet) willing to ingest animal wormer, I was willing to use it as a lotion, allowing it to soak into our skin. (One of the very important things I've learned on this journey is that EVERYTHING we put ON our body ends up IN our body.) Our NP wrote us a prescription but we suffered sticker shock when we went to have the prescription filled. I wish I could remember the actual amount but suffice to say it was over a thousand dollars. So we ended up getting about a fourth of the amount prescribed. One of my goals was to be able to find ways for people who couldn't afford expensive doctors and expensive treatments. As soon as I learned the ridiculous price for human ivermectin, I knew I would be using the horse paste as a lotion. So it ended up that Logan and I both used some of the human pills and some of the horse paste. We put small dabs of the paste on our spines (where the nematodes live). We both ended up being as happy with the paste as with the pills. The effect was stunning. We could feel stuff happening in our heads, jaws, teeth. (This after seven months of very extensive and expensive treatment.) And right away we both knew we were reaching the next level of recovery. We knew immediately. We probably used ivermectin for about a week that first time. We used very small doses for as long as we felt it doing something and then quit using it when we no longer felt anything happening. Then we would switch to a different wormer that targeted different worms.

Pyrantel pamoate (this is the active ingredient in over-the-counter pinworm medication which is commonly used for children suffering from night-time itchy butt (pinworms). In addition to pinworms, pyrantel pamoate kills large strongyles, small strongyles, and roundworms. Again, we took very small doses for as long as we felt it was having an effect. We used the liquid suspension so that it was easy to adjust the dose. We wanted to take enough to feel it working but not so much that a huge parasite die-off made us miserable. We bought this off of amazon but I am sure it could be found at any pharmacy-type store.

Praziquantel (also called Biltricide) - we used Equimax horse paste which is a combination of the very mild praziquantel wormer and a low dose of ivermectin. Very effective. Again, very small dabs of the paste on our spine for as many days as we felt it working.

Fenbendazole - The fenbendazole protocol at the FB group Morgellon's Support Protocol was one of the most effective treatments we used. There are two ingredients to the protocol: red reishi mushroom capsules and fish fenbendazole powder. Red reishi mushroom was amazing for me. I think I have had parasites for thirty years and I think they had been hiding behind fortresses of bio-film. The red reishi broke this up, causing me to vomit up thick slimy saliva (like dogs often do). Red reishi decomposes the bio-film attachment filaments like nothing else we have found. Be warned though, that when bio-film breaks up, all of the parasites are exposed and fight back. Logan and I both immediately came down with strep throat. My niece brought me a diffuser and essential oils (eucalyptus and thieves oil) which I put next to my bed and let all that steam blow over me. I spent two weeks coughing up phlegm and bio-film and, surprise, surprise, mold. Oh my God, the mold.

None of my extensive testing showed mold and I would have said I didn't have it, but I was looking at stuff under my newly acquired microscope and I could see it. And it wasn't all microscopic. Sometimes I would suddenly projectile cough out thick rubbery balls of slime mold. Over and over I had read that mold was at the root of all the parasitic diseases but I didn't believe it until I got the mold out of me using red reishi mushroom and fish fenbendazole powder. (1/16 tsp in liquid daily; it is tasteless and dissolves easily.) This protocol was game-changing for us. And has been for others I've told about our experiences, including a friend who has been in treatment with Dr. Horowitz for more than four years. Working with the practitioner she sees at Dr. Horowitz's office, she has been taking the red reishi and fenbendazole (human, not fish) and is also seeing amazing results.

I have not taken any wormers for several months, but I know that they are something that I will use on myself several times a year to keep myself as free of parasites as possible. Just as I do with my pets and my horses.

(2020 update: Here is a good article from 2017 that continues the discussion of signature symptoms of various parasites. https://www.prohealth.com/library/a-deep-look-at-the-symptoms-of-six-major-lyme-related-infections-41139?fbclid=IwAR1EmfXhstzxmdB5OORhLNZ8slukwXO-Qe5ufP0aKCaUX-xVGCuxAy5HvIE Because the truth is, facing the lack of reliable tests that doctors give humans (as opposed to the very good fecal and blood tests that vets do in office on our pets), Lyme Literate doctors (LLMDs) often diagnose and treat based on an assessment of symptoms.)

47 comments:

  1. So interesting. My thoughts exactly with the animals. We test for lyme and treat our pets for lyme...but what about the human. I am going to research the worms further. My daughter still battles the balance issue. Ability to walk has not come back to her.

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    1. Start your research by watching Dr. McDonald's research. It is SO important. I would love for you to report back if your daughter uses wormer and how it works for her.

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  2. What an interesting article. Thank you! I have learned from Dr McDonals videos. I've been looking for something like this de-wormer program. Can you elaborate a little more when you say "Pyrantel pamoate kills more than only pinworms." I can take this two ways, does it kill off bad and maybe good? or do any damage to the body? What exactly do you mean?

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    1. Here is a link to horse pyrantel pamoate being sold on amazon. If you zoom in, you can see that in addition to pinworms, it is effective against at least one type of ascarid, two types of large strongyles, and four small strongyles. I have read anecdotal evidence - and in my experience believe - that wormers also have effects on some bacterias and possibly Babesia. Pyrantel pamoate is regularly given to children (and their familiy members) who have itchy butt at night (this is pinworms). So . . . is any medication benign? Not really. Every medication causes changes in the body. Do I think wormer is more benign that anti-biotics (especially long-term anti-biotics)? Most definitely.

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  3. I really appreciate you taking the time to convey all this. This is very interesting.So I read that Lyme is cause by the bacteria, what is the process that worms become inside you? Also, what brand of fish fenbendazole powder do you use? Truly admirable all the work and knowledge you've learned about all this. Looking forward to more publications.

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  4. I have started listening to the videos. I appreciate you putting his together in hopes of helping others
    I am curious about a couple things
    1. Do you feel as though you needed all the other stuff(antibiotics etc) or could of started with the worms?
    2.did you de-worm on your own or with a dr. Supervision?
    Thank you

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  5. We found the wormer much cheaper and more effective than the antibiotics so if I had to do it all over again, I would start with wormer. There are also many natural supplements and anti-bacterials that we have found very effective. We began with doctor supervision but quickly went on by ourselves. We used very small amounts of wormer but felt a huge effect. I've given my animals wormer for decades with no side effects so I just wasn't afraid of using it.

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  6. Did you take Or do anything to detox?
    And did you change your diet?
    Thank you

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  7. Hi,

    Thank you for this excellent post. You have mentioned that your friend took human Feben. Where can you get human Feben? Please let me know.
    Many thanks!

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    1. I believe you have to find a doctor who is willing to prescribe fenben.

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    2. I think it was said that it is $1,000 and it is not different from the other fenben! Listen to what is said here and go with the animal fenben! Veterinarians are better doctors than human doctors! The medical associations have corrupted the profession so it no longer stands for the honest and pure purposes of helping people!

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    3. You’re thinking about the Ivermectin horse paste (machine gun dewormer) as opposed to the Dr prescribed bottle that cost over 1k. The fenben breaks up the mucous.

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  8. Hi Carolyn,

    Thanks for your email. So kind to respond. Please give me your email address.
    I have a doctor but I need to tell him where/ what country human Feben is available. He does not know himself. I hope you can help.
    Thank you!

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    1. I got Fenbendazole from "Fenben lab" on Amazon.ca I swear by it for myself.

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    2. Just for your info, there are reports that this Fenben from Lithuania is claiming 99% purity but indeed only contains 7% Fenben after being tested by an independent US lab.
      I would definitely buy other brands that are recognized as being safe, like Panacur, Sageguard or Happy Healing.

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  9. What works in Africa may not work so well here, we've been hitting them with what's available for many worm generations and they have developed some resistance.

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  10. When you leave a comment here it comes to my email. Does that work for you?

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    1. Hi thank you for this article, could you tell me what brand of Red Reishi you used, was it powder or capsules? Also where do you buy the Fenbendazole without prescription? Thank you again, Roxanna

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  11. Hi Carolyn,

    I am currently battling a parasitic infection an need to step up the game which lead me to this post. I have tried several courses of Herbal products to no avail. I do take DE daily but that only eradicates whats in the gut and intestines, not other organs and i can tell they are there, fighting to stay.

    Could you please email me thoughts how, what to use, and dosages. It would be much appreciated.

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  12. thank you so much for posting all of this info. I have late stage lyme, babesia, ehrlichia and chlamydia pneumoniae along with a million food allergies i’m only 24 i’ve lost the last 8 yrs of my life to this. I often wonder If I have parasites / worms. how can I tell? I have horses, a dog, cats, can I get it from them? tbh i’m rlly scared to try and use animal dewormer. i’m dreadfully chemical sensitive.

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  13. I have a horse with chronic lyme that has turned neuro. Any ideas? This week has turned worse and can hardly walk. Any help would be appreciated.

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  14. Great article.. been in the fight for over 5 years..

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  15. Great article.. been in the fight for over 5 years..

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  16. Hello Carolyn and thank you for all the info. I believe l became infected withyme since l was a child in the mud fifties and for the last 40years have been chronically neurological ill. I only recently heard of Fenbendazole and have started using a low dose 100mg of the granules to start with as l am so sensative. I am only on my 3rd day and already have abdominal bloating and constipation. Is there another form l can buy in the UK which will be more gentle.

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    1. Take Milk Thistle to help your body with detoxing the die-off.

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    2. I had to persevere with the pain for a few days along with bloated stomach, diarrhea and sweats all that is gone and I can see the light. I use 222mg twice daily. That's what works for me. My husband and I now do it twice a year. We also took Ashwaganda root, vitamin D drops and Turmeric. I'm not a doctor but I'm quite pleased. Good to eat low carb as carbs feed bad stuff in your
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  17. Thanks for this .
    Great article , really helpful
    I just did three days straight of pyrantel and now I feel like death .
    Clearly I have a major worm load and need to do this way more slowly .
    I have some type that seems to feed on blood.

    Astrid

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  18. Thank you for this info! Do you have recommendations for dosage by weight for each of these treatments?

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  19. can you explain the dosage for the mold treatment? 1/16 of what? The mushroom and fendbendazole? Do we start slow?

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  20. How much of the horse wormer did you use to rub up and down your spine? We have horses too. My joints are hurting all the time. Diagnosed with Lyme in April 2014 and am limited in my movements and balance for riding, etc. I need help!!!! Thanks!!

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    1. This might be helpful. Amazon sells Panacur(Fenbendazole) for dogs but it is taken by many people to eradicate cancer. A man named Joe Tippens cured himself and now, years later, the antitumorigenic effects have been confirmed by peer reviewed studies. The dosages recommended are published on different websites. Although people are using it for cancer it is marketed as an antihelmetic for dogs and that is how I use it.. For me and my dogs. Another good website that discusses parasites realistically is debugyourhealth.com. Eradicating parasites is more difficult than than the current information from the CDC and World Health Organization

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    1. I am so very sorry that you lost her. (I know this reply is 8 months late, but hoping you get it and are comforted)

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  25. One thing that needs to be added here is the benefit of fasting for the Herx reactions and overall health stimulation benefits. A simple water fast for 3-4 days with a tiny amount of food with the meds for added absorption will impact dramatically the overall effect of using any anti-helminth drugs. Our bodies struggle with the die off of parasites and even bacteria unless our bodies use the waste as "food" and starving is very, very good therapy. This has been known and ignored for thousands of years. Try and see, the joy of hot tea and no foods will amaze you as your body cleanses and heals itself.

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  26. Thank you agapemom. I can’t believe the suffering and I tried what I thought was everything but I’m looking into methylation now. I believe if a person has genetic methylation problem and or pyrrole disorder, they can’t recover from Lyme unless they supplement appropriately according to those disorders. It may be the same with animals. I’ll never stop researching. Take care.

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  27. Serrapeptase is being recommended and used by many taking fenbendazole to clear out the debris and lessen Herx reactions.

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  28. FOR ANYONE SUFFERING FROM LYME, PLEASE READ STEPHEN HARROD BUHNER'S BOOK, HEALING LYME. I TOOK HIS 3-HERB PROTOCOL FOR A WEEK AND GOT OFF OF CRUTCHES COMPLETELY (1/2 TEASPOON EACH JAPANESE KNOTWEED, CAT'S CLAW BARK, ELEUTHERO, ALL IN POWDER FORM...JUST WHISK INTO A HALF-MUG OF WATER, LET ABSORB FOR ABOUT 5 MINUTES, THEN DRINK THEM DOWN, STIRRING BETWEEN GULPS. 1/2 TEASPOON OF EACH HERB IN THE WATER, 3 TIMES PER DAY FOR A WEEK. AFTER THE FIRST DAY, I WAS OFF CRUTCHES (HAD FOOT/ANKLE/CALF SWOLLEN DOUBLE WITH INFECTION THAT NO ANTIBIOTICS COULD TOUCH); BY THE END OF THE WEEK, EVEN THE REMAINING LITTLE LIMP WAS GONE. THE PROTOCOL IN HIS BOOK INVOLVES MORE HERBS, ETC., BUT I JUST DID THE 3 AS I HAVE MILDER LYME SYMPTOMS THAN MANY, AND FEWER OF THE HERBS FOR ME MEANS FEWER UNWANTED SIDE EFFECTS...WE ARE HERB MINIMALISTS.

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  29. Has anyone tried taking the ivermectin horse paste internally? My friend with lyme does this and swears by it

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    1. yes some people took it and it helped them with covid

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  30. I did because i was coming down with covid that my son had (confirmed by test). I felt better the next day. It tastes bad but manageable in applesauce. I'm not a Dr. but wouldn't hesitate as it's one of the safest drugs. There are some frontline doctors out there that would sell you the human version through telehealth because they understand that it IS an early treatment for covid. Also, check into your genetic status on MTHFR, COMT, and others. Also, Pyrrole disorder can make chronic lyme much worse (search Dr. Klinghardt & Pyrrole disorder ). I have some lyme "leftover" but is very managable. Good luck.

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  31. I just read that if you have genetic pernicious anemia, the azole form of medicine can hurt the lining of the stomach further due to lack of intrinsic factor. Too bad for those people because fenben has helped cure SOME cancers like Joe Tippens did. He has a protocol online\.

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  32. Hello! which medication would you recommend for complete deworming of adult?my husband took 18 mg of ivermectin /human tablets/ yesterday and feels better, underskin itching is gone.

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